Monkey Boy 1 Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) What a total waste of time & money from the establishment. Eventually go into court at about 4:30 after waiting around for about 3 hours I got into the court room, Magistrate asked about my Not Guilty plea, so I gave them the info on the ISO spec and how Plod tested the exhaust at the wrong revs. Prosecution looked blank and then said "I thought he was pleading guilty" to which the Magistrate said that "Mr Monkey Boy (Not real name ) corresponded to the courts in January stating the not guilty plea" Prosecution then said "if that is the case then, I have no info on this case, we need the Police officers here" to which I was given another date of 29th May. The Magistrate then said to me, "ooh, this looks quite technical, I wish we had a more male biased Magistrate bench". (2 females & 1 male Magistrate sitting). She then said that "it looks as if you know your stuff,?" to which I replied "that I work in the motor industry at Lotus Cars" and she said "well done" & smiled So the plot continues, and to top it all off it cost me £7:00 in the pay & display car park.and another day I have to book off work. To Ninja Neil, - Mate, you would have been bored stiff To Arizona - Love the convicted Monkey pic, but it is going to take more to keep this monkey from behind bars (unless it's a bar that sells alcohol) Edited February 20, 2013 by Monkey Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadlebag Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 and they get paid how much to say all that!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlasumm Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 well you could always ask the magistrate to get them to pay for your time off work and that if found clear of their charges as theya re the ones thats screwed up with your plea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizona Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 what a waste of time, though they do this all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalghost Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Bit worrying all that really. You would think that after they cocked up it should just get thrown out of court, but no, it seems the incompetence continues. And what was the woman on about! If you are in a position to be dealing out judgement in law, then you should be at the level to understand reasonably complex documents. Stupid f'ing bint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNeil Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Now you’ve described your afternoon like that I am glad I didn’t come, as you say what a total waste of time and money, and not just for you. Thinking about it even if the arresting officers turn up next time, (they didn’t have the technical knowledge to conduct the test in the first place) what’s to say the court will have anyone with any technical knowledge in the room to determine the correct outcome, therefore pushing it up another level. I think I might sign up for jury service for the end of May, now that would be a laugh, anyone else interested? Might put an advert up on piston heads, can you imagine a jury full of total petrol heads, not only would you have to restore the zort to its former glory you would also be made to up-rate it to at least 98Db and fit an F-off turbo with a really loud dump valve. Only joking, I feel sorry for you m8, although things are now looking more in your favour, you’ve now got to take another day off work and it could also be a waste of time, it’s also sitting over your head for the next couple of months. Smell ya later N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNeil Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) In your defence, send the court this photo, now even my manhood looks small: I think it just needs to be strapped to the space shuttles external tank to become the first Toyota in space, how cool is that? Thinking about it I hope they have sorted out the windows, mine are crap especially when I jet wash them, they tend to leak a bit, so not so good in space, A Toyota feature I like to think. Mine is black and leaks a bit, so not appropriate for space travel, but I wish this gentleman every luck with his project, I need to get back to my primary project; "the time machine", sorry I simply haven’t had the time to finish it. Web Link: http://www.minkbaby....g-car-exhausts/ Edited February 21, 2013 by NinjaNeil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limeymk1 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Lol That is an epic MR2, twin jet engines. There are vids of it on youtube on the salt flats in the USA. There was a tri turbo jet Mk1 MR2 built over there as well. That outcome really sucks Simon, they should have just binned the whole thing, total waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Boy 1 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Yes, I agree Chris, As the prosecution had no case to answer to, it should have been thrown out, but as they want to take it further, they will have to look into how they are scamming all the motorists with sports exhausts, then realise that they've got it wrong and pay back all those FPN's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair_GT Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Just read this through and wanted to say I admire you for taking on the establishment with their daft regulations, and the idiotic police who blindly enforce them. Good luck for May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Boy 1 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Thanks Alistair. I am glad that many of the CCUK community are taking time to read through this, Nice to know there is a BIG family out there and they all have a grasp of common sense unlike the Plod who should really know better. The more enthusiasts get to know about some of these obscure rules which are thrown around with out consistency, the better. If, and I mean If, this case goes my way, then there could be a lot of motorists out there who may well have paid a £30 FPN for no good reason and would need to be reimbursed some how. But we won't go down that road just yet. All I can say is that it was looking promising but the proof will have to wait until May 29th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherv Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Just read this through and wanted to say I admire you for taking on the establishment with their daft regulations, and the idiotic police who blindly enforce them. Good luck for May Well put sir. and i think the time off work plus expenses incurred would have to be seriously looked into if everything turns out as hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair_GT Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 99% of people would have just taken it on the chin and paid their 30 quid, no matter how unjust it was. You've made a bold move by taking them on. Hopefully it goes your way, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjiboy87 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Sounds like it could be a good outcome for you if thats how the judges behave on the day! and you should try and get recompence for 'loss of earning' for your wasted day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Boy 1 Posted April 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 The latest update on this Got a letter through from the court today asking if I wanted the two Police officers to attend the court to give evidence? Of course I do, I know that they dislike going to court for people who argue over £30 FPN's Also been doing a little more digging on the legislation and have found some more figures that contradict their statement Road Vehicle construction & use act 1996, states that vehicle with over 75Kw output should be 86dB(A), not 82 as they quoted. Also reading through a copy of their statement I found a couple of errors, It may only be small errors, but it's a technicality. The have my car down as Green and have an incorrect letter in the Reg. No. of my car. Here's looking forward to May 29th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizona Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 going in there prepared with this sort of info and making your case can lead to a very satisfying grin on exit Looking forward to reading how it goes. Good luck, though i dont think you need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 TBF its a hard colour to put a generic term on, when push comes to shove I think green can be called a fair statment....but the incorect reg....well thats enough to have the case thrown out on its own as the test was obviousley not conducted on YOUR car at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cravo Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Yep. Incorrect reg plate will have it thrown out immediately mate on a technicality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25th Anniversary Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 im glad for you mate, would love to see their faces when it gets thrown out of court lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwayzsidewayz Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Good on you mate. Agree on the number plate issue. I got off a parking ticket as the reg had been taken down wrong, was a big faff, but in the end it was sorted, even got my costs paid for, parking wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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