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No MoT for 40 Year Old Cars

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I'm sure by now all you 'classics' guys know about the car tax exemption for 40+ year old cars, well according to this article it now may apply for the UK MoT as well. 

 

Have a read and share your thoughts.... 

 

http://www.musclecarszone.com/500000-older-cars-in-uk-wont-need-mot-test-next-year/

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Tractors don't require an MOT to be driven on the road. So could be some really old tractors driving about with dangerous mechanical faults for all we know. Saying that, I've never actually seen a tractor broken down on the side of the road.

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15 hours ago, Cal670 said:

Tractors don't require an MOT to be driven on the road. So could be some really old tractors driving about with dangerous mechanical faults for all we know. Saying that, I've never actually seen a tractor broken down on the side of the road.

At the very least tractors tend to be kept out of city centres, are also not allowed on motorways unless a certain minimum speed can be reached.

 

It's not ideal. One of these examples of political examples of "cutting red tape" forgets that this red tape is in place because it saves lives.

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Who the hell would do the driving ?

On 29/09/2017 at 14:48, daytona said:

Cars should be subject to MOT test

Drives should be subject to IQ test

 

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After flicking through a couple of classic car mags in a shop today ,  it does indeed look like this is coming into being next year

But according to some articles i have read there is a grey area surrounding modified cars. heres a quote from one article i read here http://www.classicandperformancecar.com/chevrolet/5736/40-year-rolling-classic-car-mot-exemption-announced

 

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There are also questions surrounding the need to test modified cars. The proposal states that the cars that have been substantially changed ‘in the technical characteristics of their main components’ will not be exempt from MoT testing. But what is substantial change? The DfT has proposed a points-based system, similar to that currently used by the DVLA, although the exact rules are yet to be finalised. 

 

 

My car has just turned 40 , but is modified. It has an 18R-G twin cam from an RA28 GT fitted , so i may well still have to mot it. But even if it does become mot exempt ,  i will still put it in for a 'mock' mot once a year anyway , just to make sure it's roadworthy and safe for the roads

I dont have an issue with having to mot it ,  finally becoming tax exempt is good enough for me !

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My ta23 has been nct (mot) exempt 10 years now but we check it over every year & make sure all is good but i know what im doing so it isnt a problem to keep her in tip top condition, in Ireland the rolling 40 year exemption comes into play in 2020 but from may 2018 cars between 30 to 40 years old car will only require a 2 year test instead of a yearly one!

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agree with tax exempt not MOT as there can be so many dogs outthere ..in fact this morning i was discussing this with a garage guy this morning as i had to take tinas car for a small fix ..he said ive seen so many mk1 golfs that shouldnt be on the road ...

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Just thought I'd add something to this.

 

When I took the celica for its first MOT under my ownership, I'd done everything I thought needed doing in terms of safety, including new discs and pads etc.

 

I got a call to say the brake pipes had actually burst on the rollers during the test. Not the bits you can see, but the bit where they go under the plastic cover halfway down the car. Now, your average guy would be hard pressed to visually spot that. 

 

If it hadn't been picked up at the MOT when would it have gone? The first time i broke heavily at motorway speeds? If someone pulled out on me?

 

I'm really glad the MOT test did what it was supposed to there.

 

 

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I know this is an old thread, but a guy I know kept coming into work, going on about this 40 year mot exempt thing, saying his old beetle and camper, will be exempt when the law comes in.

 

I didn't believe it, with health and safety becoming more and more strict over the years, thinking it was an accident waiting to happen, so I did some research on proper government websites, and it only applys for tax, not the mot. Even old cars still have to have the test, but there much less strict, and the emissions dont get tested. Emissions are only done by a visual check, as long as it's not bellowing smoke out, it'll pass.

 

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Health & safety do not come into it, With 40+ year old vehicles, the owner probably knows more about the vehicle than the MOT tester does. Plus with the new MOT tests, about 80% of it is irrelevant to a 'Classic vehicle'.

 

There is nothing stopping you from getting any vehicle MOT'd no matter what the age, but it is probably more advisable to get the vehicle 'checked over' by a specialist or someone with an interest in Classic vehicles rather than some testing station linked to a main dealership that know nothing about cars over 10 years old.

 

 

Anyway Chris, your info is slightly wrong, this was Taken from the Direct Gov web site:-

 

Vehicles that do not need an MOT

You do not need to get an MOT if:

  • the vehicle was built or first registered more than 40 years ago
  • no ‘substantial changes’ have been made to the vehicle in the last 30 years, for example replacing the chassis, body, axles or engine to change the way the vehicle works

If you’re not sure if there have been any substantial changes you can:

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Hah.

same website I checked. Had different info when I looked. Was probably before the 20th may. Oh well. You win again Si, you're taking all my poker chips

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21 hours ago, Monkey Boy 1 said:

Health & safety do not come into it, With 40+ year old vehicles, the owner probably knows more about the vehicle than the MOT tester does.

 

Sorry no - I have seen many classics that look lovely on the outside but are rotten underneath. 

 

Few years ago we had an old mini come in, beautiful on the outside and inside but was so bad underneath had the dangerous marker ticked on it, Guy was planning on selling it to someone who was coming down from Scotland that afternoon to buy it.

 

The main parts of the test are still relevant to a 40 year old car.

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