Digitalman Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Hi Guys, although this is aimed more towards the Gen6, views from others owners are also valid. There are many posts on here regarding Celicas appearing in other online sites and scoffing at how much the present owner is looking for. This applies to modded and unmodded cars. However, if you turn this round, there are Celicas out there that are being sold for higher than average prices. Of course a price is always there to be haggled over, some people are good hagglers and some arn't but if there are cars out there going for good prices why not the ones we own? There are always "mates rates", but how many Celicas actually go to a close friend rather than just a person you chat with a lot online (they can also be good mates). Does anyone else feel we are under valuing our cars and loosing out? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I strongly believe the reason values of the gen 6 have plumeted everywhere not jsut on here is the fact there are thousands to choose from so people cant claim a high price unless its low millage or absolute perfect these cars dont break so there are tons on the road at varrying prices meaning but people are usually tempted to go look at the lower prices ones a gen 6 GT standard no matter how good it is, is worth no more than about £1600 tops a beams again standard slightly more modded or scruffy looking cars are ten a penny so would pay no more than £800 for a middle of the road car yeah other cars out there hold their value better but they are rarer not that many FTO's left cause gearbox's blow up and people like FTO's same thing thats happened to the celica is effecting the prelude a nice lude 2.2 vetec can be had for £500-£800 in perfect condition. and thats because they dont break either and loads to choose from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorjack Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Exhibit A Exhibit B ...Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalman Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Exhibit A Exhibit B ...Yes. Now that is just criminal. Why was I never sensible and put money away for a rainly day? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baka Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Have to agree it seems to be due to availability. Trouble is st202's don't seem to rot or break as much as some cars; and they actually sold quite a lot ukdm, plus all the greys. The ST202 also had quite a mature owner base from new. They're no good for drifting so don't get killed on track or rapped around a lamb post. I've recently decided to get a st202 and went through all the usual suspects before settling on one. There are loads available compared to the FTO, Pulsar, 200sx, Early Evo's, VTI civic's, Integra's, etc. Other abundant quick(ish) cars seem to have been hit too. e36 BMW, 306 gti-6 and the prelude. Still I'm not complaining, means I can sell my BMW and get a really nice st202! Though equally I'll only get £1400 if I'm lucky for my mint 80k 323 sport coupe. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherv Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I think we do undervalue our cars at times,especially cars like GT4 s,but its still down to what people are prepared to pay for a particular car.These days people don't want to pay top dollar full stop,which is why I think some of the sellers have the piss taken out of them,though that's usually because they are taking the piss anyway.Those aside,most people will price their car for what they think its worth.take gen4 s,generally due to rust and age they go for pennies,problem is the knock on effect means a perfectly good one still struggles to fetch any decent money purely because of the ones that pop up that are projects or sheds.An older Celica is only worth what the buyer wants to pay.And in a lot of cases,worth more in bits if they've been modded,which is a shame.Crap for a seller,but look what you get for a few hundred quid to under 1500 .It's partly why our cars are so popular ,huge value for money,but unless you have a rarer model like a CS or that ilk,you ain't buying an investment.but that's what separates enthusiasts from owners..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 what you said there abotu the c/s is exactly what i have been trying to say to the gen 7 guys about the TRD sports_M in years to come only the rare ones will be worth anything even the GT4 in abotu another 5 years you will have people screaming out for an un-modded GT4 WRC jsut watch this space I also think the gen 5 is at a turnign point and personally i have seen values climb, reason being is they are rare now with so many being scrapped because of sills or oil leaks. but are stil desirable especially for the rally slags who wnat a ST185 its very easy to make a standrd gen 5 look like and st185 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper-wrap Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 With the Gen 6 it's very simple, supply and demand. Supply: Shit loads, thousands. Demand: Low. High insurance, high road tax, high fuel use in traffic, most people don't realise that you can get parts off breakers so they assume repairs and maintenance is high (it would be if there wasn't breakers/specialists to do servicing and so on). Plus, a lot of 6's have been subjected to poor servicing, lack of care for bodywork, suffer with common issues like rusty doors. These all add up and put people off a purchase. Oh and they're 'impractible' for people with kids and/or a need for lots of room in the rear seats. The list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulie Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsillycar Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Truth is any car is worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for it. The Celica due to being less than practical as a family hatchback is Amazing value for money. Up side is i got myself a darn good looking motor for peanuts Ok if i spend a fortune on it i'll have little chance of getting my money back, but hey if i sspent good money on a lateish Vectra or the like i would see so much depriciation and would look out my window to see a plain hum drum motor. Give me a Celica any day Long time to wait for Gen 6's but 4's and 5's should be about to start rising in value now. If only i had a CS in the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 With the Gen 6 it's very simple, supply and demand. Supply: Shit loads, thousands. Demand: Low. High insurance, high road tax, high fuel use in traffic, most people don't realise that you can get parts off breakers so they assume repairs and maintenance is high (it would be if there wasn't breakers/specialists to do servicing and so on). Plus, a lot of 6's have been subjected to poor servicing, lack of care for bodywork, suffer with common issues like rusty doors. These all add up and put people off a purchase. Oh and they're 'impractible' for people with kids and/or a need for lots of room in the rear seats. The list goes on. +1 that is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizona Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 With the Gen 6 it's very simple, supply and demand. Supply: Shit loads, thousands. Demand: Low. High insurance, high road tax, high fuel use in traffic, most people don't realise that you can get parts off breakers so they assume repairs and maintenance is high (it would be if there wasn't breakers/specialists to do servicing and so on). Plus, a lot of 6's have been subjected to poor servicing, lack of care for bodywork, suffer with common issues like rusty doors. These all add up and put people off a purchase. Oh and they're 'impractible' for people with kids and/or a need for lots of room in the rear seats. The list goes on. yep this (IMS has just posted same while i was posting lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piloteer81 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 When my Gen 6 was written off a year ago, I was pretty shocked to see how much the second hand car market had fallen in value. SO much so that I decided to get a Gen 7, which I picked up with 10K fewer miles and 4 years younger than my Gen 6 when I bought it for the same price... If the Gen 7 hadn't been made, I'd have quite happily bought another Gen 6 and would have been willing to pay £2K at least for an excellent un-modded/demodded example with low miles. As others have said, they just don't go wrong - had mine for five years and 25K+ miles and it only cost me fuel, parts and oil. Not a single breakdown. They're definitely sought after - I was told as much by many a mechanic that MOT's mine, but there are so many about that for the time being, demand is low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 i think so yer,it doesnt help the amount off threads ive seen sayin celicas aint worth shit,if someone is thinking of buying one and comes on here to do some research then reads that,then they gonna be rubbing they hands together and doing us all outta money,so yer id saying shooting your self in the foot basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I’d definitely say a lot of people are undervaluing the Celica, especially the 6. Ok maybe technically if you just look at age it is only worth a few hundred. But any car in good condition is still going to be on a forecourt for over a grand so we should be looking for about that as a private sale, especially when you know you’ll need haggle room anyway! When I was looking for mine I went to see 5 or 6 Gen 6's both privately and at dealerships with prices ranging from £700-£2000 and each was a dog in one way or another. So in January when I came up with one in very good condition for £1500 at a dealership in Leicester I was more than happy with the price. Especially when you also consider that we had paid £2000 for mums identical Celica just over a year earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabman Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) Truth be told when we are looking for a new one we want original and we want it cheap , any mods and they are worth peanuts , when we want to sell its a different matter and the mods do count towards value . I am a great believer in ask what ever you want , you probably will not get it but you never know so always worth a punt at a high price to begin with , price wise I always work on the fact you can lower your price , no one wants to give away there their favourite coupe . Edited November 12, 2011 by crabman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerevar Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Wow, I'm so jealous. I paid 2700 EUR for my GT (~2300 GBP) and it has/had quite a lot of stuff to get fixed - I already put 1800 EUR in it (including summer/winter tires though) and there's still stuff to be done (minor painting, polishing, suspension check etc.). But the car is super rare here - mostly just 1.8 STs around. So be happy and don't complain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndps Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have bought and sold loads of Celica, along with others. Celica is cheap for what it is...sporty four seater with decent performance, decent economy, decent space. A good sporty all rounder. I always try a car at a higher price for a while, then drop it. The car always finds it's buyer. Some cars go to folks that want it at all costs, but that is a rarity. Most go to those that are looking for a car, not a Celica. At this end of the market cost is first, then the make and model. So a Celica at 800-1600 is competing against many many other cars of varying styles. Most of my Celica go to families or couples, so the competiton is huge. We cannot be undervaluing if it takes a fortnight to sell a decent £1000 Celica. Undervaluing would be making it 600 and it sells in an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikca01 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) swapped a 2.6 audi coupe for my first gen5. both worth around the same then a few years ago tho. bought my 2nd gen5 for 400 quid with 3 months mot on it. that was about 5 or 6 years ago its still going as well as most new cars and its done 185k now. paid 650 for my gen 6 import last year with 90k on it. spent maybe 1k on the gen5 and closer to 1500 0n the gen6. if you like celicas price doesnt really matter you can usally find a good one for a decent price. and you know that every morning it will start. and will put a smile on your face when you want it to. and when mot time comes around unlike a ford or vauxhall owner you wont need a welder on stand by. Edited November 16, 2011 by mikca01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper-wrap Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I want £5k for my Celica, who's 'avin it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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