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Driveshaft rubber perishing?


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I've noticed on my driveshafts think the o/s I'll double check, there's a piece of rubber integral about halfway along it that seems to be 'disintegrating' is this like a dampener or anti-vibration thing along it? has anyone any experience of this?

And does this mean it's gonna snap at some point?

Cheers in advance for any help

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Digging up an old post, and I’ve not been here for a while myself, but I have pretty much the same issue as described above.

I could hear the rubber flapping against the ARB when rolling. I’ve trimmed it off to stop the noise, but does anyone know what the rubbers actual function is?

 It just seems like plain metal underneath it.

I think the only fix would be a new driveshaft, which is tempting anyway, just not sure crucial it actually is.

Can anyone advise?

 

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On 22/11/2020 at 21:50, rich_p said:

Digging up an old post, and I’ve not been here for a while myself, but I have pretty much the same issue as described above.

I could hear the rubber flapping against the ARB when rolling. I’ve trimmed it off to stop the noise, but does anyone know what the rubbers actual function is?

 It just seems like plain metal underneath it.

I think the only fix would be a new driveshaft, which is tempting anyway, just not sure crucial it actually is.

Can anyone advise?

 

 

You can send off your drive shaft to get refurbished, and it should come back with a brand new rubber on it. I do believe it is for anti vibration damping. I'd rather have it than not. 

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I pulled the rubber part off mine when it came loose and left the metal bit under on  it and it was fine , see loads of cars where the rubber has come off - probably more didnt have it than did to be honest. 

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I cut mine off on the recommendation of the old boys in work, they said they’ve seen water sit under the rubber causing the shafts to snap on the corolla’s and Avensis. 

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It will be a vibration damper for the same reason as dual mass crank pulleys. Any spring plus mass combination (and metal is springy) will resonate at a particular frequency. In the case of driveshafts, this will be a certain speed. If kept at that speed constantly and without the damping, the flexing of the metal will lead to fatigue and snapped driveshaft. The big question is what speed is the resonance, and how long do you spend driving at that speed.

 

A very informative thread on the subject.

 

http://www.gt4dc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6120&hilit=resonance

 

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I can agree on the crank pulley 100% the hybrid Engine still have a ‘damper’ pulley fitted which is a normal crank pulley but they don’t have any aux drive belt/components, it’s sole purpose is as a damper. 

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On 04/01/2021 at 19:50, Cleario said:

I cut mine off on the recommendation of the old boys in work, they said they’ve seen water sit under the rubber causing the shafts to snap on the corolla’s and Avensis. 

 

Seen loads of corollas/ versos/ avensis that have rusted and snapped under the rubber.

 

But on the celicas never seen one snap and when ive taken the rubber  and ciut the metal part off completely they havent been rusty underneth. Its another example of the difference in component / build quality that Ive seen with european vs japanese built cars.

 

Have you found the same?  Theres loads of small things ive found over the years  to be common on euro built cars compared to jap built cars that have put me off them. 

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Having come from years of owning escorts and talbots as my toys, I noticed a massive difference in the quality of steel used by Toyota, both for body metalwork and fixings.

 

On a ford, a body panel would go from a stone chip to a hole in a year or 2, and leaving any surface rust when repairing would mean doing it again within a couple of years. Very different story on the Celica. Likewise bolts which have been there for 20 years just take half a turn with a breaker bar and out they come with fingers, very different from bolts which are rusted solid within a year. This is why I always clean & re-use original bolts rather than fitting new aftermarket ones. Even plated bolts rust quicker than original Toyota.

 

 

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12 hours ago, ams said:

 

Seen loads of corollas/ versos/ avensis that have rusted and snapped under the rubber.

 

But on the celicas never seen one snap and when ive taken the rubber  and ciut the metal part off completely they havent been rusty underneth. Its another example of the difference in component / build quality that Ive seen with european vs japanese built cars.

 

Have you found the same?  Theres loads of small things ive found over the years  to be common on euro built cars compared to jap built cars that have put me off them. 


i can agree totally, if you look at old auris/avensis/Yaris they’ve all had a brake pipes replaced, some extremely poorly. Corrosion on sills/wheel arches, lower arms corroded with holes in.  All made within the EU. Yet we still get Prius taxis in with 250,000 totally original parts. (Minus HV batteries)
 

I actually brought this topic up  at the academy (we do Lexus and Toyota training even though we have differnt techs working on them) and was given the answer of ‘There’s a reason Lexus mainly produce cars in Japan’ (and look at the old RX that was made in Canada) 

 

On the other had the hilux and land cruisers produced in South Africa rust. Badly. I know they’ve had hard working life but I’ve seen 2016 with brake backing plates corroded, snapped coil springs, floor panels with holes in,  all super common problems. 
 

we’ve obviously got the airbag inflator recalls still going on, I’ve done a few starlets/celica’s recently still solid maybe the oil leaks stop the corrosion :mellow::blink:

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Do think it’s pretty amazing that Toyota are replacing the inflators on air bags on 25 year old cars when officially the service life was 10 years.

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I do but also can you imagine the bad press that would happen should a 20 year old Toyota sending shards of metal into an innocent driver. 
 

 I’ve worked for a certain brand that after 10years airbags are advised they get replaced. When replacing them curtain airbag bolts have snapped, fallen out but it’s always been kept on the low. 
 

im not sure what I can openly say without causing myself problems but I’ve worked for 3 brands all of which use Takata airbag inflators only 2 of them have an active recall. 
 

Toyota take any safety related items seriously from the floor mats, we have to remove any non genuine floor mats, we have another active recall for CH-R /new Corolla brake pedal torquing to the air bag inflators. I’ve done a few avensis that have had driver, passenger and Airbag ECU complete replacements, easy £1500 parts plus 2.5hours labour. 

 

In all fairness I think Toyota need more gratitude for being completely open about it and are more than willing to admit the error(from supplier not in-house fault) and will replace them at no expense to the owners. 

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On 09/01/2021 at 00:20, Cleario said:

In all fairness I think Toyota need more gratitude for being completely open about it and are more than willing to admit the error(from supplier not in-house fault) and will replace them at no expense to the owners. 

 

I say this whenever I hear people say "OH look toyota has another recall - not as great cars as you keep saying"

 

Great example is the window switch recall on the mk2 yaris at 10 years old.

 

VAG window switches break after 5 years and they have done for years, same as there window regulators which have been the same shitty design for over 20 years! 

Add to that door looms breaking after 3 years and the dealer not being able to supply them as there is a 3 month backlog - yet they deny there is a known fault. 

 

Even the oil issue on the 1zz - the VAGs had a 1.6 engine around the same age and that was awful for oil burning - and it wasn't down to gummed up rings like the 1zz (which I blame on lack of maintenance /. wrong oil) 

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