rpsmith79 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 It would be an instant MOT fail if you removed the steering lock though, so you still need to put the key in and turn it to the first position to disengage the steering lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3p Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 It would be an instant MOT fail if you removed the steering lock though, so you still need to put the key in and turn it to the first position to disengage the steering lock hmm you sure Rich i got a stolen recovered cavalier many moons ago & i never replaced the ignition/ steering lock assembly,just wired in an switch to bring on the ignition in 1 of the blank switch areas ( used the same switch from a breakers as the heated seats that where not fitted) & a hidden push button to start & it passed 2 mots with no probs, as far as i'm aware there is no requirement for a steering lock its your choice as to how secure you want your car to be Also this mod/money saver also saved my car from joy riders as it was broken & steering plastics busted off & then left i can only assume they where confused when there was no ignition wiring to screw driver to start it...lol I guess the way to do it would be similar in the celica ( i have considered it) remove the ignition/steering lock completely , have a switched ignition & push the button to start, you could maybe do it on a timer relay to be doubly safe so that the starter would only engage for a set amount of time from the doors being unlocked ie unlocking the doors switches the timed relay for say 10 secs which gives power to the starter trigger wire for same time ( have to complete the circuit with the push button to start) Am unsure as to how the immobilizer works does it have to be in the ignition? or near it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsmith79 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I'm pretty sure the steering lock is part of the MOT test, but i could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieRich Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I'm pretty sure the steering lock is part of the MOT test, but i could be wrong from the 1st jan 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3p Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) I'm pretty sure the steering lock is part of the MOT test, but i could be wrong just done a little digging & is not a requirement atm but will be Jan 1st 2012 Section 2.1 – Steering Control The law requires vehicles to be fitted with some sort of anti-theft mechanism to provide minimum security protection. Commonly this is achieved by the fitment of steering locks, transmission locks, or gearshift locks. For testing purposes, the Directive only concerns itself with steering locks, and a check on the presence and operation of the steering lock mechanism, where one was fitted as standard, has therefore been added to this Section. Testers are required to check that the mechanism doesn’t inadvertently engage, but this is effectively already carried out during the ‘lock to lock’ check. However, to check that the steering lock operates as intended, it will generally be necessary to remove the ignition key and turn the steering wheel sufficiently to engage the lock. seems the law is screwing us again you can have as many anti theft devices as you like but if you remove your fitted as standard steering lock you will fail as of next year so that little mod is now not worth doing bugger my slow typing lol Edited October 12, 2011 by sh3p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsmith79 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I was half right then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coralreef Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I have an engine start button in place of the cigarette lighter (courtesy of Scott previous owner) wiring looks pretty simple as I disconnected it when I took the dash out. Don't have the car with me so can't confirm the wiring but imagine it would be the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnboyz Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 damn it i was hopping to go ahead with this mod as some point when im sure on how to do it but now it gone out the window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstraw Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Why has it gone out the window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsolentMinx Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 you can still use an engine start button... you just can't do away with using the key still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh3p Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 indeed you can still fit a push button you just can't remove your ignition / steering lock, so you have to put in the key turn it all but 1 notch to then stop & push a button so seems a bit pointless, but would have looked more into removing it all together & installing a switched ignition & push button but that will soon be a failed MOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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