Sherv

That was tested with a dB meter about 2 feet behind the exhaust pipe , its not laboratory conditions

124dB at JAE 2013.... When I come past you on the upshift with the Beams at 7500 RPM youll definitely know about it...

full geo setup will include camber and toe adjustment as well.I have the same coilovers as you, they set the exact ride height that I wanted then wheel alignment front and rear and camber and toe, I have adjustable camber on the rear so it was all of it bar corner weighting.Had it done at Westfield in Essex, was around 105 quid

If the plod think your exhaust is loud, the first thing it does is give them a reason to pull you and then have an excuse to have a closer look at your car, to see if they can pick you up on anything else. They can accuse you of exceeding 'noise level' which is around 82db I think, but the car has to be tested in an open space with the equipment at a set distance and the car at x amount of revs, However. .....there is a lot of legal ifs and buts around this, as mentioned our own Monkey boy had a prolonged case involving the exact wording, execution and indeed exact meaning of all this stuff..and he won.Mind you they also said the reason they pulled him was because his exhaust system 'looked loud', the idiots. From an MOT point of view rightly or wrongly itll depend how strict the tester is.Even so, without being able to test the car to the above 'guidelines', can an MOT tester fail the car just because it sounds loud? if the system is sound and has no leaks etc, if theres a CAT fitted where it should be etc ? I think the regs state 'excessive noise' but who's the judge of that. Thats why you get a lot of different opinion on this; the regs are sort of there but they are still a bit wobbly if you take it all the way

What are you like lol.I dont believe they all had 4ws I seem to recall.

Ha,yeah that Gen5 is in need of some TLC for sure. Enjoy your cold ones by the beach/pool old chap.

Agreed,the Type R version didn't seem to harm sales of the semi skimmed Type S version .In fact the S was launched after the R's, so theres a market.

True enough, but things have moved on and there is a market for the hot version of these kinds of cars both in Japan and Europe, even with the advent of the small micro type car scene. Honda and Nissan, Ford, Vauxhall etc etc all cater for the customers that like that kind of thing.I forecast strong sales for the latest Civic type R and I still think Toyota are missing a trick here.

ha ha I wondered why it looked familiar!

What was the situation comparison wise with the Blyton car,certainly looks far from stock that one?

If you're too worried about MPG in a 205 WRC you should buy a diesel Dont worry about it ,ill do you a swap for my Passat

Glad you have the car running as it should,and yes,even though we have some lovely roads in Kent still to drive around I would happily cruise around the scenic areas of Cornwall in a gen5 convertible for as long as i possibly could get away with

We kept you a parking space

Definitely use a high quality oil and go from there first

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/subaru-brz-toyota-gt86-compared/1201012 Looney,get the Subaru

Its simple really,for Looneys original question then if hes looking for a car with a good chassis,nice equipment and he's not bothered about the performance,ie its about the same as what he's got (ish) and he's happy to spend the money then why not,you take one out and if you think its great then you buy it just like Miss C has,no issue there.You need to look at it like the MX5,because its fairly light and RWD and has a good chassis you can have fun without loads of power,fair enough. On the other points though .....this is from a performance view.heres a typical example of where Toyota have come performance wise.On the youtube vid above there's a film on the TRD 86 and the HKS supercharged one.So obviously the charged car will be a nice weapon,but hang on,theres a TRD version (I know its an older vid).So when this was made,theres a TRD version that gives you bigger wheels,better brakes and it handles a lot better,which is cool.But nothing under the bonnet,so apparently its a touch slower in a straight line than a standard car.So this is the result of the Racing Development,AND they charged 31 grand for it as well!Frankly thats a joke and a bit of an insult to the whole point of having a performance arm of your production.Do you buy an AMG Merc and finding out its no quicker than a standard car?Do you buy the Type R version of your Honda and find out its no quicker than a standard car?No.Unbelievable. And that's the subject done for me . Not sure where GreyRacers thread is,id merge them if i could find it.Must be in the files somewhere in this lot...

All this is dependent on what you actually want from your car.If you just want a nice new car with a little bit of zip,that looks nice,and you're not one for the odd traffic light grand prix then you can buy a GT86.If you're a bit more more enthusiastic than that,but you're not a track day person,then you dont buy a GT86.I couldn't spend 20 grand on a 'sports car', paying sports car insurance and maintenance costs,knowing that almost every other sporty car around me ,be it a Ford ST,or a horrible Vauxhall,will probably kick my ass.Thats just me,I'm not you.I'm not anti GT86 at all,but it doesnt cut it for me for what i would want from a sports car,especially for that kind of money and knowing what other manufacturers are producing.

Back in the late 80's you could buy a gen4 ST162 with the 2.0 fuel injected DOHC engine developing 147BHP,disc brakes all round,PAS, ABS,electric mirrors,electric tilt and slide metal sunroof,Air conditioning,alloy wheels,radio cassette,armrest with two cupholders,oil pressure gauge,rev counter and battery volt gauge on the dash, for....just over 16 grand.(In 1988 Toyota made aircon and ABS an option.) So you could say the prices were the same but 16 grand was a bit more cash in the Eighties (but then this was the Eighties and cash was king).Celica was very well equipped,good performance,good looks,bulletproof engine....but it did cost you. Compare the spec to the cheaper but inferior Ford Sierra of the day,GL spec you got different wheeltrims for your steel wheels,90BHP,one drivers electric mirror,drum brakes on the back and thats about it.When they introduced the 2.0i model they squeezed 115BHP out of it,gave it a Ghia badge,alloys,electric mirrors,velour seats and a rev counter.And a fag lighter. Get what you pay for i suppose

Super Live Sound system was available for them,the JDM versions especially the older gens had some nice kit.Example,the gen5 GT-R i had for a while had 4 wheel steering (i know it was particular for that car although they did a GTR without it), it had climate control,electric foldy mirrors,the electrically adjustable seat you speak of with the lumbar and adjustable side bolsters to really 'hug' you in,you also had the option of cruise control on the JDM car as well.When Wayne had his JDM vert gen4 from 1987,that had the power roof,and it also had the cruise and other buttons mounted on the actual steering wheel exactly like a modern car.That was nearly 30 years ago!Remember the Japs did keep a lot of the good stuff for their own market,also factor in costs as the years went by,the Celica was a pretty pricey car in its day,aimed at a certain market and Toyota did start cutting costs anyway,theres no doubt,especially for the UK market.The technologies with the VVTi system etc etc mechanically were improved over the 3sge days (you can argue about the longevity of the later engines against the modern ones though) but there were definitely cost cutting exercises in materials like plastics for interiors etc.The older gens may look a little dated on the insides etc but they were arguably put together better as well....but again,car manufacturing processes have changed over the years.They dont need to use as much material to fit things together.Try taking off a front bumper from a gen5,ridiculous amount of screws and stuff,Celicas from that era were definitely over engineered.Nowadays you really do have to pay for your toys,but conversely the loaded Celicas werent cheap! I think since the Celica marque went fromn the scene Toyota have slipped behind Honda and the like personally.Honda for example,still make the small car,the family car,'urban' vehicle,like Toyota do but they and others still recognise their sporting side...they still improve on their 'Type R' cars,theres a new Civic again out now thats a a right beast,there is still a market for these cars.Toyota havent done anything like this for years,probably not since the last of the Supras/GT4s/Fast MR2s were about. You cant put the GT86 in that bracket,we've had countless discussions on this so i wont go too far over all that again,but yes,its a great chassis,and its power to driveability is much like that of say an MX5,neither are very powerful cars but theyre a good package.But since when has a good package been enough?Where's the development?All this TRD history,the rally heritage,all this stuff is what Toyota were famous for,and when it comes to performance cars ,for me theyve done nothing compared to the other manufacturers for years.

Been really happy with mine,factor in lots of time for them to make it up and fit etc,took quite a few hours

they built my exhaust too I believe Edwardio and Nthnmunky had theirs built there as well.

By the way,i got the parts from Georgie last night.

Interesting though,I should contact Toyota and try and nail down exactly how many gen4 verts were produced for the UK market,the figure of 250 has been bandied around for years but no one has actually substantiated that amount officially

I think the gen7 wheels work even better on the 4 than the 5 because the 4 is a more angular car,the 5 is a rounder softer look so the thinner spiky look of the 7 alloys doesnt look quite as good IMO,but they do look ok on the 5.