Black Knight Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 As says, these magnetic sump plugs, I understand the idea is that they will pick up any metal fillings etc in the oil which all sounds good. But I’m assuming there must be some sort of down side to them as well otherwise they would surely be a factory fit instead of the normal bolt? Thoughts and opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akuma77 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 i was going to get one of these until i decided i would best stick with a new fibre washer and the original bolt unless you want to replace the bolt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princy Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 They pull small particles of metal out of the sump which would otherwise get pushed round the oilways and clog the filter which can only be a good thing Never heard of any downside to them and can't see how there could be one, they're the first thing I put on any car I ever have, simple but effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftershock Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I think there not fitted as standard as alot of the engine is an alloy, therefore no need, cant see any downside to having one though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J03 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 With the zz engines they don't really make any sense as they're all aluminium, but the 6 has a cast iron block/alu head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermoacc Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Cant see the harm in using one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDB Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Couple of those rare earth magnets on oil filter and base of sump may be better Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Ok so general consensus is that they are worth fitting So next question is what to get from where? Had a look on Amazon and loads listed, but nothing for Toyota :rolleyes: Some look to be different sizes to others too, so I’m guessing sump plugs are not a universal size across all cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akuma77 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400331578366?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maizey Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 right then . . . fitted one of these to every car I've had. . . and they do take out (sometimes quite a worrying amount of) metal particles . . . ever had a scratch around in your old oil in the drain tray after doing oil change?? . . . . . ok not the greatest pastime, i admit. There have been a few concerns/comments regarding magnetic sump plugs made out of "alloy" material - ie they may shear off on removal if it's been put in to tight along with the repetative warming/cooling cycle . . . . I reckon you would have to really, really tighten it to have it shear off though. However there is a steel one www.motorsport-developments.co.uk "The Dimple is without doubt the best Magnetic Oil Drain Plugs on the market. All steel construction, real engineering quality control and the strongest magnet available" Follow the link at bottom of the page to their "webshop" which I have on my G7 . . . . . . . Hope this helps Oh yes . . . and you get 2 x washers with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorris Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Pros = All good Cons = None at all A lot of engines come with them can’t understand why Toyota didn’t fit them! Next time you do an oil change you will see the swarf produced by the engine on the magnetic plug. Dorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzzzythedog Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 +1 , also had a fair few fitted ( on both my cars right now ) , as has been said they can gather a bit of swarf which stops it darting around the engine blocking oil gantrys , they basically work when the engines turned off after a run , the particules gravitate toward the bolt , on removal you end up with a furry bolt end which can be an arse opener , they cant be made of alloy as its not magnetic but can be made of a composite with iron filling in it which are magnetized , however they feel as heavy as cast on all ive come across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 right then . . . fitted one of these to every car I've had. . . and they do take out (sometimes quite a worrying amount of) metal particles . . . ever had a scratch around in your old oil in the drain tray after doing oil change?? . . . . . ok not the greatest pastime, i admit. There have been a few concerns/comments regarding magnetic sump plugs made out of "alloy" material - ie they may shear off on removal if it's been put in to tight along with the repetative warming/cooling cycle . . . . I reckon you would have to really, really tighten it to have it shear off though. However there is a steel one www.motorsport-developments.co.uk "The Dimple is without doubt the best Magnetic Oil Drain Plugs on the market. All steel construction, real engineering quality control and the strongest magnet available" Follow the link at bottom of the page to their "webshop" which I have on my G7 . . . . . . . Hope this helps Oh yes . . . and you get 2 x washers with it So these 'dimple' plugs is what your using? Certainly sound good in the blurb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowchinaman Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) I've tried 3 times and all 3 times the bolt breaks and I had to drill or tap out the magnetic sump plug. I know the logic is good but there are a lot of crap sump plugs out there which cannot be torques up properly. I may have to tray the MD ones. Now I can't remember what size the 3SGTE sump plug was? Edited July 5, 2013 by yellowchinaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul45 Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 been using the magnets out of dud harddrives on the sump very strong just take them off before draining.when i rebuilt the beams engine i left them on and was amazed at the amount of shit they catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 ....Now I can't remember what size the 3SGTE sump plug was? According to the MD website, and most of the ebay listings, M12 x 1.25 http://shop.motorsport-developments.co.uk/engine-products-237-c.asp been using the magnets out of dud harddrives on the sump.... Sorry, you've lost me there!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowchinaman Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 been using the magnets out of dud harddrives on the sump very strong just take them off before draining.when i rebuilt the beams engine i left them on and was amazed at the amount of shit they catch Where would you put the magnet so that you can get the crap out too? I wouldn't think that you can simply attach it to the sum cos then you'll have to remove the sump to scrape the crap out each time? Maybe at the end of the oil filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul45 Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 PC hard drives contain very strong magnets fixing peoples PCs I end up with dud ones...remone the magnet when changing oil the crap flows out with oil...the idea is to trap the swarf when the engine is running....yes on the filter would work but it's a hell of a flow through there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Yea that website also sells a set of 6 magnets specifically for attaching to the filter. I wonder if my local PC repair shop might let me have a few magnets then Got to be worth an ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul45 Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 I only use them because they're free...just ask if they have any scrap drives.....if not I have some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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