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very true so if my car was imported with lets say for example a hks silent exhaust running at 102db at 3/4 revs and i have the sva does this mean il be able to hold up 2 fingers when i get pulled by the police ?? if this is the case then all those imported cars that have come into the country with said certificates with these exhausts fitted are going to be absolutely fine now wouldnt that be a handy little loophole

hehe and in accordance that sole same thing applies to any and all 4x4 vehicles which are predominantly known as a tractor but try telling that to a range rover vogue driver

i dont think its a choice of which car to keep its more about what you want to use it for if you want to drive to and from work take the mrs out and do the trip to the shops then its obvious to keep the standard green one if you really want to get into track time circuit racing and sprints then keep the silver one unfortunately there is no compromise between the 2 because you will always be wanting less in the car if your racing because you will always want that extra edge but for the comforts you will always want more there is no one without the other so if the option isnt there to keep both then the choice boils down to your use

hmmmm thats a bugger as i understand it the subframe for the gen6 superstrut takes the gen6 macphearson swingarm easily and lines up must be that thing where when they made the gen7 super strut they made mild changes so as not to intercahnge between the gen6 and gen7 super strut i would suspect if the mr2 have fitted it without issue then the celica will be just as easy same engine after all just that its in the front of the car instead of the rear

curborough is ok you dont get massive speed up on the track and its fine for a gt4 done it just the once but had a cracking day there with other gt4's there is one section that they tend to close off which is a longer straightish section they do this so that you dont have the opportunity to get too much speed up and trash your car theres enough run off to avoid crunching your car into anything but as its your first outing id suspect you wont be pushing it massively at the start anyway just take it steady and learn

many thanks and as much info as possible main bits for wishbones are the spacing between the fixings onto the subframe and then the length of the wishbone at a guess to then get the other info of where the end sits with the ball joint for the hub to sit on will be quite hard to ascertain without putting them ontop of each other to visually see the hole spacing on the hubs would be very handy for the suspension strut this would help to ascertain as to whether gen7 suspension can be fitted to gen 6 and visa versa but as to getting the info of if they create camber in a positive or negative could also be difficult without them being side by side id love to be sat with the 3 versions of gen 6 and gen 7 with macphearson and superstrut to just spend the day swapping stuff around to see what fits and lines up but i dont have the space the funds or the cars to have them all sat there something else that would be greatful to know is about the gen 6 hubs and gen 7 hubs in that are there any differences between the gen 6 whether its off a 1.8l or 2.0l version and the sge and afe engines same goes on the gen7's is there any differences between the 140bhp and 190 bhp versions or can they all just be swapped between the relevant generations without issue thanks in advance

im also after them for another reason entirely hence the multiple questions lets for example say that yes the gen 7 wishbone fits to the gen 6 subframe but it pushes the hub out to far or it alters the caster to the front or rear or that it brings the hub in towards the car or for example a gen6 hub fits onto the gen7 wishbone but when connecting the suspension it causes positive camber or negative camber now for me this kind of info could be extremely handy to have especially if building a track car and id like to say get added camber for free or some extra caster for turn in heres an example for you the st205 rear subframe /diff /the chassis to hub tie arm and hubs will all fit onto the st165 and st185 but the subframe to hub tie arms and the drive shafts dont as they throw it out by a fair way without you do a bit of fabricating which in simple terms is by cutting the chassis to subframe tie arm and welding back together at an offset and then you re work the top hole of the suspension strut to keep alignment weld a washer in place for the new hole to give strength and away you go end result for a 165 can be as much as a 4inch wider track if you dont alter the strut that can be some serious rear camber not a bad bit of info if building a car eh so its back to my original point can a gen 7 wishbone fit onto a gen 6 do the hubs interchange does the suspension struts for the front inter change or if its possible would somebody please post up measurements of the fittings and bolt distances and il see whether they match my needed application

well seeing as the parts wont be being fitted to a stock celica and its to alter and modify a celica so i can ascertain as to what does and doesnt fit then just going out and buying them to through them away is not my idea of fun seeing as they both run front sub frames which look remarkably similar seeing as both generations ran a super strut and a macphearson set up and seeing as if a manufacturer can save machine costs they will use certain parts i was hoping someone may of tried regardless of how readily available the parts are sometimes its nice to know through neccesity sometimes out of curious nature others because it can save a few quid i just find it a little negative to keep going why bother because you can still get these bits and those bits its a bit like your now aging celica what you going to do the day sorry sir/miss those parts are obsolete come from toyota and the what was a cheap second hand part turns into a premium and rare ? il wager if some owners of certain marques knew theyre parts would no longer be available the outcome would be different as an example audi quattro rear brake set up theres a particular part that simply disintegrates no longer available take the brake apart and it gets damaged then hey ho scrap the car or look into what would of fitted from a different model its a bit like one of my other posts for st165 engine mounts so far rocking horse poo seems easier to get hold of

not interested in gen 6 or gen 7 brakes what i am interested in is simply do the gen 7 front wishbones and front hubs fit onto the gen 6 front end and match up can a gen 7 hub fit onto a gen 6 wishbone and still line up can a gen 6 hub fit onto a gen 7 wishbone and still line up does the suspension swap between the two other than the top mounts that is pretty much it tbh i see it this way if a gen 7 wishbone fits onto a gen 6 and lines up and i can buy it for £10 compared to paying £20 for the gen 6 wishbone then to me its info worth knowing same goes for the hubs as well its a bit like knowing that when replacing particular bushes on the rear hubs of the gt4's that you go order the supra ones because they are soooooooo much cheaper than getting the celica ones its also knowing that the rear subframes on an st205 fits onto an st185 and st165 which means you can have newer bushes and one that isnt rusted to death its like knowing a supra turbo fits a 165 that a turbo off an st205 fits an st 185 that the gearboxes are interchangeable between the 3 gt4's etc etc etc i mean has no-one tried fitting the 6 speed box off the gen7 onto a gen6 yet???? as to brakes thats a completely different story all together and not one i really need to be bothered about right now as any old brakes can be fitted to any old hub with an adapter plate i didnt think getting this info would be so difficult with so many celica owners on here but obviously it must be something no-one has even considered or even checked on when working on either generation of car depends on what your putting them on tbh they do suffer from corrosion though on the pistons so can be expensive to refurb and they do tend to sell at premium prices

front end so theyre either known as wishbones or swing arms seeing as they just sit there and swing around i called them swing arms but i can call them front wishbones if its easier for folk to understand seeing as the rears have link arms or rather tie bars its just what certain people understand thats all

so do the gen 7 celicas not run swing arms ? am i misguided with what ive been finding in the parts section on ebay for gen 6 none super strut and gen 7 none super strut the super strut is a £1500 optional extra imo but what im really really interested in finding out about is that many of toyota vehicles use front swing arms and so far ive found that images of the gen 7 and gen 6 celica's look identical so out of curiousity has anyone used either or on the wrong model so to speak and found they fit or does no-one experiment between the models to see what fits to maybe save themselves a few quid here and there and maybe buying a newer swing arm off a gen 7 to fit onto a gen 6 same going for the hubs and then suspension and calipers i just figured someone may have test fitted and found yep they fit which means great newer parts and possibly cheaper plus the added benifit that if buying new and toyota say oh im sorry sir or miss your car is no longer on the list you can say to them thats ok mrT il have the one off the gen7 celica instead as to my intentions its a case of knowing who i can buy certain items from such as front suspension how much work i need to do for brake conversions and to basically and hopefully provide folk with some upgrades with definative parts i see it this way super strut is expensive there are other toyotas out there so why not expand ones knowledge and modify for a better end to keep certain cars on the road with owning 2 165's and a couple of 205's then looking at later in life of the 185 then these have huge variations on the 162 182 and 202 and then theres the gen7 and between the variations some will of already experimented hence my question as to gen 7 super strut fitting onto the st205 the banana arm and 2nd arm are the wrong length and thinner as i understand it

right then boys and girls it may be a topic already covered but no idea how to go hunting through this forum for niche bits of info so i figured someone may know the answers to these futile questions now i appreciate that brake calipers are different but is it possible to fit gen 7 swing arms and hubs onto a gen 6 is the suspension interchangeable between the 2 generations can you fit a gen 7 swing arm to a gen 6 hub and visa versa and when it comes to hubs are there any differences between the gen 6 hubs when it comes to the 1.8l and 2.0l the 3sge and the afe and then between the gen 7 hubs between the 140 and the 190 and then as they got newer and went facelift etc any help on this would be amazing lastly what size discs are used on the gen 6 celicas between the ranges of 1.8 2.0 3sge and afe engined versions and same goes for the gen 7 versions as well oh and has anyone ever fitted either of the gt4 st165 or st185 hubs onto there celica? just wondering if the discs and calipers were better even though the cars are essentially older greatly appreciate the help and all will become clearer eventually