taffcelt Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hi again,got an N reg 2 ltr ST202 3s Celica Import and It looks like I need a replacement Gearbox.Had conflicting advice: 1-I can use any 2 ltr Celica gearbox,and 2: a guy looked at it and said it must be a 3sFE gearbox (this was on a tag on the chassis).Any advice please as I have to purchase one soon.Thanx,T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ams Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 try briano or bigb - they will probably know and may even have one available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adex Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) 3sfe & 3sge engines use the same s54 'box. s54-06a means open diff s54-06D means LSD Most are open diff, & LSD 'boxes are usually way more expensive (unless the seller has no idea it has an LSD). As long as the car from which your replacement box comes from says the same 'box code you'll be fine. (There are other LSD 'boxes, but as you have a 3sfe engine, it's unlikely you'll have anything other than an S54). Edited November 26, 2012 by Adex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggy Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 3sfe & 3sge engines use the same s54 'box. s54-06a means open diff s54-06D means LSD Most are open diff, & LSD 'boxes are usually way more expensive (unless the seller has no idea it has an LSD). As long as the car from which your replacement box comes from says the same 'box code you'll be fine. (There are other LSD 'boxes, but as you have a 3sfe engine, it's unlikely you'll have anything other than an S54). pretty sure ratios are different in the 3sfe to 3sge ,pretty sure they fit though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 pretty sure ratios are different in the 3sfe to 3sge ,pretty sure they fit though.. you might be thinking on the 7afe which uses the c72 box or some crap like that s54 box is a s54 box regardless if its in a 3sfe or a 3sge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggy Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 s54 box is a s54 box regardless if its in a 3sfe or a 3sge No i have been told this a few times...to do with gear ratios.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adex Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) I'll have to do a bit of digging, but I'm 99% sure I remember reading a thread on an MR2 forum talking about gearing options in which they came to the conclusion that they were all so similar (if not identical) that if you wanted to have taller gearing you had to use camry v6 'box parts. Edited November 26, 2012 by Adex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 No i have been told this a few times...to do with gear ratios.. my money would be on urban legend then, cant honestly see toyota making 2 different s54 gearboxes with the same trans axle code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulie Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 pretty sure ratios are different in the 3sfe to 3sge ,pretty sure they fit though.. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 +1 havent been able to find any reference to the 3sfe having its very own special ratio'd s54 06A gearbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulie Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 havent been able to find any reference to the 3sfe having its very own special ratio'd s54 06A gearbox Well I know a rev 3 fits a gen 5 auto box Not much help really is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adex Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 So basically taffcelt, we've no idea with regards to ratios. Some have heard they're different, some believe there's no difference. All you need to know is.... He's called the stig! Both 3sfe & 3sge s54 06a 'boxes will fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Both 3sfe & 3sge s54 06a 'boxes will fit. I have told him this via PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taffcelt Posted November 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Thanks for all the help guys,think I'm going to take a chance and buy a gearbox and hope everything fits!Gonna put out an SOS to see if there's anyone in the Cardiff area who can help out-I'm useless with all things mechanical.Thanks again, T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digs Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Thanks for all the help guys,think I'm going to take a chance and buy a gearbox and hope everything fits!Gonna put out an SOS to see if there's anyone in the Cardiff area who can help out-I'm useless with all things mechanical.Thanks again, T. Would not know where to begin but just moved from England to Cardiff, would happily hold and undo things if you find someone who can help as would like to watch how it is done myself and say hello to some Cardiff people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggy Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 It's the final drive that's different ratios.. 54 * First Gear: 3.285:1 * Second Gear: 1.960:1 * Third Gear: 1.322:1 * Fourth Gear: 1.028:1 * Fifth Gear: 0.820:1 * Reverse Gear: 3.153:1 * Final Drive: 4.176:1 (EU Versions have a 3.944:1 Final Drive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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