Jim881 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Hi all, In a week or 2 Im gonna be refurbing my calipers on my gen 7 140 and have found these on ebay. http://www.ebay.co.u...=item25678bb51c I was wondering if anyone else had found a cheaper option i.e. free I was thinking maybe some dowl would work or something. Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaungt4 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Well i use a small g clamp that i have to clamp off the brake hose . You can buy 1 of the clamps you found on ebay for the same price or less from any good motor store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim881 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks mate, Shame we dont have and good ones round my end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Baker Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 A pair of vise grips...or mole grips whichever you wanna call them this is what i always use and works great just dont crush them too much otherwise you will ruin the internal structure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princy Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I just put a normal nut and bolt through the banjo, saves any risk of damaging the pipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adex Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Never liked those line clamps, never will. Seems retarded to purposefully do something to your lines that you spend the rest of the time trying to avoid doing.... Use it as an excuse to change all your fluid, a bottle is only going to be a couple of quid & you'll need some to top it up & bleed anyway. Edited March 1, 2012 by Adex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim881 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I was thinking about changing it but heard its a bad idea to let the system run dry. The calipers are probably gonna be off for a couple of weeks. I was gonna flush the system once i had fitted the calipers again. So im i ok to just drain all the fluid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serratia Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Like this: This is how most people do it and I havent heard of any probs. An expert like freaky Parts or Lee from Se7en maybe able to advise a better method. Edited March 1, 2012 by Serratia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adex Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I'd say use ordinary nuts & bolts then as suggested. It'd be interesting to hear what experiences peeps with braided lines have had with garages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim881 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Like this: This is how most people do it and I havent heard of any probs. An expert like freaky Parts or Lee from Se7en maybe able to advise a better method. .Ive seen that method before but im worried caus there on for a while im gonna caus permanent damage. Regarding the nut and bolt method can you do that to standard hoses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serratia Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I did that (as seen in the pic) two years ago, and Ive passed two MOT brake test with no probs. However, who knows if I may have damaged them inside. This is how a mechanic friend showed me to do it years ago. Im getting braided lines soon, and Ive heard you cant clamp those, so once they are fitted I'd hate to replace a caliper as how to you clamp them then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adex Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 .Regarding the nut and bolt method can you do that to standard hoses? Yep, all you're doing is blocking the banjo bolt to stop moisture/dirt from getting in & damaging the insides of the pipes. Im getting braided lines soon, and Ive heard you cant clamp those, so once they are fitted I'd hate to replace a caliper as how to you clamp them then? The old fasioned way, by not clamping them! A full system bleed doesn't take long anyway, & it's a small price to pay for the extra 'feel' braided hoses give you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serratia Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah but Ive heard horror stories of people getting air in their ABS systems and such like and really struggling to get the peddle firmed up no matter how many bleeds they do...always worries me bleeding brakes. I go through shed loads of Dot 4 when bleeding just to make sure all the air is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: blade :: Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Just drain the whole fluid and replace once you fit your calipers on, i changed the calipers on my girlfriends car the other week drained the fluid and then fitted the new calipers with braided lines and refilled and bled the system and all is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Clogwyn Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Don't clamp your hoses, it;s the best way going to make them fall apart and fail. Use the free and safe option - old tub under the banjo to catch the spill, you're only looking at a 100ml or so, hardly a major leak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleroo Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Here is a tip. Put cling film over the top of the reservoir and then screw the cap on. As long as its a complete seal you loose virtually no fluid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim881 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Don't clamp your hoses, it;s the best way going to make them fall apart and fail. Use the free and safe option - old tub under the banjo to catch the spill, you're only looking at a 100ml or so, hardly a major leak! Is that a 100ml total or per caliper? So the brake system acutally needs you to press the brake pedal to drain the system? I thought it would just drain itself naturally through gravity. Here is a tip. Put cling film over the top of the reservoir and then screw the cap on. As long as its a complete seal you loose virtually no fluid Im liking this option mate sounds very cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adex Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) But you'll still need to replace some fluid & bleed your system. The only difference is how big a bottle of fluid you get. A couple of quid difference at most. Unless I'm certain that it's new(ish) fluid, I'd still recommend using caliper refurbishment as an excuse to change it all. If as you say, you'll be leaving the calipers off for a while, then the fluid will be exposed to moisture in the air anyway, cling film or not. Perhaps this method is best for quick caliper repair jobs. As the fluid will have prolonged exposure to air, trying to save money now could lead to poor brake performance later. Then you'll need to change it all anyway. Twice as much work. Edited March 1, 2012 by Adex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleroo Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 As Adex has mentioned you will still need to bleed the brakes. Without fail. I would normally replace the fluid if its not been done for a while tbh. I risked it once and had complete break faliure at about 70 on the M27. Frantically pumped the brakes and got them back. Not worth not doing properly fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim881 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Well my plan is now. Remove all the calipers. With the cling film method as mentioned from waller for the brake lines. Then once there refurbished fit them all back on and flush the brake fluid through until it clear. Sound like a plan guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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