digs Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Bought some second hand bolt on hub centric spacers last week, went to fit them last night. Apart from sticking the wheel out too far, when I tightened up the steel tapered wheel nuts I was using before, I gave it to much on the breaker bar and sheered on of the studs right off! I did them up too tight obviously, but anyone got any toque settings for bolt on spacers ? I bought 4, now have 3 and a broken one.... Edited September 30, 2013 by digs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermoacc Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) I would not take them anywhere over 100Nm. Edit- Oh, and a little copper grease on the taper and thread when fitting too Edited September 30, 2013 by thermoacc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublet Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 103Nm, I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digs Posted September 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 thanks guys, will give them another go later this week and actually just use a torque wrench god knows what I did torque them up to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakyParts Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) No where near 100lb/ft if they're FreakyParts spacers. As you're tightening into aluminium they need to be upto around 70lb/ft otherwise you'll strip the thread. We can sort out replacement studs if you need. Drop me a PM. The correct way to fit them is a dab of threadlock on the base of the stud which screws into the spacer, screw it in finger tight then let it set for 10 minutes. Then fit the spacer to the car with the nuts supplied, torque these nuts up to the normal wheel torque, then fit the wheel to the new studs, refit your wheel nuts and torque upto around 70lb/ft Oh, and please don't put any coppergrease on the studs - either end or nuts. Wheel nuts don't want to be easy to loosen Edited September 30, 2013 by FreakyParts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermoacc Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Hmmmm, that last statement made me think a bit on using copper grease with wheel fastners. Maybe it's not such a good idea afterall. I have done this, probably on every car I have had over the last 25 odd years. I have never had a wheel seize nor come loose, but when thinking on the physics of the fastner, I think it is better avoided. I'll stop using it on the hub/wheel mounting surface too. Hands up.......bad advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakyParts Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Between the hub and wheel is fine, it will stop the two surfaces welding together. It's the studs and nuts you don't want to apply it to. The quoted torque figures are all dry, not lubricated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermoacc Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yeah, I get that. It probably stems from my Mk2 Escort days with steel wheels. Nuts welding themselvs to the wheel! Been looking at a few discussions on the subject since. Interesting..... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublet Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 My advice of 103Nm is 75lb/ft for those still living in the dark ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digs Posted September 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 wish I asked before starting...that's guys freakyparts, will pm you on replacement stud, has broken off below so some drilling out fun.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtoycelica Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 They ate only pish fit in hammer and a punch will take the stud out easy for ya. They ate only pish fit in hammer and a punch will take the stud out easy for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digs Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 They ate only pish fit in hammer and a punch will take the stud out easy for ya. They ate only pish fit in hammer and a punch will take the stud out easy for ya. drunk at 2.30 in the afternoon ? cheers buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublet Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 They are only push fit. Hammer and a punch will take the stud out easy for ya.I think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtoycelica Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Yea cheers dubs phones been playing up and changing words as I type them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublet Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Either that or your eating fish pits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redtoycelica Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Hahaha cheers dubs that comment made me nearly choke on my Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James7 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 I think.. *Easily for you* If you're being pedantic, and we all know you like correcting spelling and grammar Dubs! I'll agree with the 103Nm though, On the 7 I torqued mine to 106Nm which is what is recommended for the wheels iirc, and I wouldn't go below that. Just remember to check the nuts after fitting and driving for 50 miles or so, this will require removing the wheels so they will need to be checked a second time. The trick is to find the lowest torque that is required that doesn't allow the nuts to come loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
si_c Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 what size spacer you got digs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digs Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) what size spacer you got digs? 25mm, bought 4 off a guy in the wanted section. 25mm is too wide for the front though by the look of the rear thanks for all the advice above btw Edited October 2, 2013 by digs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
si_c Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I am thinking of getting some spacers, probs in january due to funds, so do you reckon 25 is too much? I was thinking of 20 for the rear, maybe 10-15 up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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