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Well I must admit I can't find much information on the calipers so perhaps thats not true, I may have misheard the guy on that one. Yeah the speedo thing was an estimation, you know what I mean

I pulled into a garage once and one of the mechanics goes, 'ah, thats a UK one. I've had 4 of these and you can tell whether is UK or not by the brakes' and told me about the calipers. I never understood what he meant to be honest as I've never even checked it out. I mentioned it anyway. All the other things I have noticed or had confirmed though.

That is the single best piece of advice though. Mines been undersealed thoroughly a few times as well but holy crap.....its a brave man that chooses a UK car over a JDM. Some of them are horrendous and really just ready for the skip. Some of the ones that are fresh off the boat from Japan look amazing. My mechanic had one in his place and it just looked like it had rolled out of the showroom. I must admit I don't understand how that can be? I know they don't salt the roads in Japan but they still get rain, snow etc......all fresh imports seem to be totally rust free though

To compare ST185s and ST205s I think the drivers are very different and each car attracts a very different crowd....I think thats a point worth considering. I will say the gen 5 lot seem very friendly and helpful types in general and there is a real passion for those cars and fellow club members and thats really cool in my book. You mentioned UK 205s cars OP and the main issue with these is the question of rust.....UK cars usually have this pretty bad. That should definitely be at the top of your check list if you are looking for one of these. Fresh JDM imports will hardly have any, although I don't think this applies to JDM cars that have been over here for a long time, I don't know if the JDM ones were even undersealed from the factory either

... The reason for the difference in power is because the JDM version has a different ECU with a more aggressive map. Fuel is one reason for that but there are other differences too.

Some of the things are kind of hard to tell in 2015 ref the metal blade turbos vs the ceramic ones because the UK and JDM cars are probably not on their original turbos. You will have to hunt around to find that information as its not common knowledge but it is out there. As for the track width this site lists a 5mm difference between EU cars and non EU cars http://www.gtfours.co.uk/stuff/facts/205/facts.htm You can notice that one when you try and fit coilovers......

I think most of the GT4s on the road these days are JDM btw. UK cars seem to be very rare. I've not seen another actually.

I've already mentioned UK cars have EGR and JDM ones don't, thats probably where a fair amount of bhp is lost on the UK ones ECU we know about, Sumps are different, UK has an oil level sensor, JDM ones don't, UK ones have airbags JDM ones don't appear to JDM ones are restricted to 100mph Brake wise Jap has 4 pot calipers UK has 2 pot (I believe) The track width is wider on the UK car than the JDM as well Cosmetic differences too ie rear number plate surround If you want to know a complete list of all the differences go and ask someone who breaks them or sells parts for them. Theres loads of minor differences. They are not identical at all Oh yeah JDM have ceramics turbos, UK ones have metal, just thought of another one

Sorry lol. If it works for you then great. I don't get it myself though. Thats not even enough for the summer for most people. Whatever turns you on though eh

Its probably the same one we all get. 4000 miles per year?

yeah classic policies don't count because they are all usually <£300 but you can't actually drive the car. I mean fully comp prices. I pay £390 fully comp for my UK ST205 with RAC and its been about the same for the past 2 years, I'm 35. They did try and put it up last year but you just phone them up and go oi, I think every company does that.The UK cars are real cheap to insure as they are only group 17 and you can go to any company. I was insured for as low as £330 with bewiser but they sounded like a load of monkeys so I cancelled the policy lol. And I got a free meercat too, which lets face it is a pretty big deal. And its got little spectacles.

That seems to be one of the only companies that will go near them in the first place, but thats the actual one that quoted me £1500 for an import GT4 compared to £500 for a UK model. That was a good few years back mind (pre credit crunch), but the difference in cost was huge back then. Maybe you guys are trying to compare other models of gen 6 to a GT4, its not the same

What insurer? Most of the main ones won't touch imports. Not the ones you can get online anyway. Facts to back up this statement? Don't agree with any of that post tbh. JDM cars have different brakes, different ECU, different sump, EGR, and are restricted to 100 mph, probably loads of other stuff as well, thats just the things I've noticed, there is a difference in power between the two, the JDM doesn't automatically slow down to 225 bhp when you drive it off the boat lol

Ugh not one of those shit valve things surely UK 205 is 225, JDM is 255 I believe. JDM ECU is designed for different fuel and has EGR too UK insurance is only group 17 though(!) and the difference between that and a JDM for a years insurance can be up to a grand