wintersun Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Think I need another GT4 in my life..... Would love another ST205 for sure, but I have been looking at the ST185 and im liking them a lot, but what are they like compared to the ST205? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheltGirl Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I couldn't tell you - but I love my 185!! I suppose it depends what your primary reason is - style or power (or both ) Quite a few have had both, so you will get some helpful comments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINY Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 hard to beat the classic look of the gen 5 in any guise mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherv Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Gen5 has the cooler body....Gen6 has the better power,PITA suspension though Mind you ,should have kept your green 205 mate.... that was lovely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 185 is rubbish compared to gen6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintersun Posted May 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Gen5 has the cooler body....Gen6 has the better power,PITA suspension though Mind you ,should have kept your green 205 mate.... that was lovely please don't wish I never got rid of it!!........ its in Poland now. But I will get another, but not sure weather a 205 or 185. I like the look of both, but always had Gen 6 Celica's, so a change could be good. But yeah I would miss the power from the ST205. Quite a few on ebay at the moment and some really good ones too, not the usual stuff. Would like to go for a UK spec ST205, but not many about. I know nothing about the engine in the 185, guessing quite similar to the 205? is turbo air cooled in the 185? hard to beat the classic look of the gen 5 in any guise mate Both look amazing next to each other. Love the rear end on the 6, but like the classic pop up headlights on the 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princy Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) The engine is very similar, obviously there's slightly less power and yes they are air cooled unless you get a hold of an RC or CS which both have the charge cooler set up. Power wise it wouldn't take much to get a 185 where the 205 is, the chassis is almost identical and almost all parts are interchangeable with the exception of the superstrut set up. Edited May 5, 2015 by princy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINY Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 uk spec c/s /gt4 are 205 hp, jap spec 185 are 225. UK 205 are 245 and jap 255. a 10quid boost control is all i need to get the extra 30 hp lol my figures i think are correct, we will soon know lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 its one thing to mention the power difference between the 185 and the 205. btu the 205 is also lighter. anyone who has had to push a 185 knows all to well that 205-215hp is not enough to push nearly 1500kg of car. the 205 is by far the best celica ever made. nothing even comes close to how they feel to drive. I can assure you that you will not be happy with a standard 185 or even a standard CS/RC as you will want more power. they are also prone to a bit of the rustage, where as with a gen6 all thats really going to rust is the bottoms of the doors for the record I have owned and driven both and also driven standard and modified 185s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizona Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 agree , though have the 185 (it wont be long before its back on the road again) the gen 6 is the best for performance/weight etc. I still remember the sight of Adex in my rear view mirror veins popping as we tried to bump start the 185 outside his place once, I like mine for the smile factor, the pop ups and i dont need more performance than it has if i was looking at a gen 6 this one i like http://www.celica-club.co.uk/forum/index.php?/classifieds/item/1341-celica-st205/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princy Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 As a previous 205 owner your best bet is to drive a decent 185 and see what you think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Chris_ Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 I own both, but my 205 is standard and the 185 was uprated & lowered suspension when I bought it. For me, the 205 feels like an executive express, while the 185 feels like a sports car despite being slower in a straight line. I've also driven a friends RC version with a boost controller, also with uprated suspension. The RC/CS chargecooling is similar spec to the 205 and the ECU's are thus mapped with less safety margin so better power and ecconomy and then not far short of a 205 in both aspects. Handling wise, the 185 is a bit more prone to understeer on tight corners with the extra weight at the front and without the superstrut geometry advantages. The difference isn't worth the extra problems of the SS on a road car though IMO. The electric drivers seat in a 185 is the most comfortable seat I've ever sat in, way way nicer than the 205 seats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheltGirl Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 The retro image of the 185 is way more cool and fun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINY Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 ah yes, understeer :rolleyes: i discovered i had this factory option last week while boosting off of a roundabout have read rave reviews about how the whiteline roll bar solves this. i have camber bolts here to try too and another shout for the seats, gen 6 are horrid to sit in, no support. the lecky gen 5 seat is awesome, one of my favourite things about it i reckon. they are jdm only as far as im aware. easy to swap them in as lots have at the end of the day it gets dark serious but its your call mate, but will be the wrong call if you get a 205 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 funny how everyone finds things different. having had several. its always the gen5 seats that give me lumbar pain. where as i can sit in a gen6 seat all day. yet i know people who are the complete opposite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintersun Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Think i'll always be a 205 driver. i do love the classic looks of the Gen 5 and love the pop up lights, propper sports car touch!! But I know the 205's inside out and I love the power and a few mods and I could easily increase it. But if I got for a 3rd GT4, think im going to look out for a late spec JDM like my old green one, even tho that was a 1996, it still had all the late spec upgrades, unless it was done by the previous owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgtt Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Green 205's were only made in 1996 AFAIK, it is a stunning colour though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 a 10quid boost control is all i need to get the extra 30 hp lol my figures i think are correct, we will soon know lol Ugh not one of those shit valve things surely UK 205 is 225, JDM is 255 I believe. JDM ECU is designed for different fuel and has EGR too UK insurance is only group 17 though(!) and the difference between that and a JDM for a years insurance can be up to a grand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Insurance is a common myth as they can be insured for the same price at the right insurer Also a jdm car only makes 255bhp in Japan, in the UK it will make the exact same power as a UK car. Only reason to buy a jdm st205 imo is for the climate control. Otherwise they are identical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxon Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Insurance is a common myth as they can be insured for the same price at the right insurer Also a jdm car only makes 255bhp in Japan, in the UK it will make the exact same power as a UK car. Only reason to buy a jdm st205 imo is for the climate control. Otherwise they are identical What insurer? Most of the main ones won't touch imports. Not the ones you can get online anyway. Facts to back up this statement? Don't agree with any of that post tbh. JDM cars have different brakes, different ECU, different sump, EGR, and are restricted to 100 mph, probably loads of other stuff as well, thats just the things I've noticed, there is a difference in power between the two, the JDM doesn't automatically slow down to 225 bhp when you drive it off the boat lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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