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Tiddles

Accident damage.

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My life just gets better and better. Hope my beloved Celica can be saved. Stupid tw*t in a VW run in to the back of me when I was stationary and pushed me into an oncoming car. 

 

My car drives perfectly and everything works. Back of tailgate is a bit bent but still closes and locks. Bonnet opens and locks but is a bit tight on the catch.

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Considering the damage to the VW it shows hoe tough the celica is. 

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Written off, unless you rebuild yourself.

AMS in the Corp section may well have all the bits you need, but there's stuff more than skin deep that will need replacing.

See what the Insurance Co have to say/offer

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Glad you're ok.Judging by the vw it was a reasonable hit,i would guess theres more damage beneath the plastics as Bryan suggests unfortunately.be surprised if not but in any case the car protected you which is all you can ask from a 16 year old motor

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Like others said, I think it depends what the crash has done to your car underneath the body panels as to whether it is worth keeping.

 

The repair/body shops that these insurance companies use charge a fortune to do the work, so even if you have a very small scrape, they factor in the cost of the vehicle/age etc and then the cost the repair/body shops charge and go by that.

 

Sometimes it is best to just get the car back from the insurer and source the parts yourself and take it to some other good repair/body shop of your choosing if you really want to keep the car. In fact most of the time, the very same repair/body shops will do the work for half of what they originally would have charge doing it through your insurance. That might be worth doing if the car is special to you, but remember it will always be tagged as written off in your documents. 

 

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I guess once the insurers have written off the vehicle;

a buy back and re-build will be subject to a category N (formerly category D) which may lower it's resell value (?)

 

Assuming the VW twit admits fault and you are blameless i think it depends upon how much the insurance company give you to cover the loss of the vehicle. It would be interesting to know this. May be better [or an option] to take the opportunity to find and buy another?

 

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Unless it holds something really special for you...then I'd wave it goodbye...buy another.

I would always have niggling doubts even after repair.

 

Sad to hear though and I'm glad you were ok.

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The VW twat has admitted fault and this is backed up the people he pushed me in to.

 

Car has not been complected yet so will keep you posted.

 

Also getting a quot from a local body shop.

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you will almost certainly have structural damage at the back - you see the biggest ding in the bumper?  the rear crash bar is literally just millimetres behind that part of the bumper (in a non damaged state) so it will be crumpled there, at least.

 

 

shows how strong the chassis is though!

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 Car being collected by the insurance company on Thursday. So today I took it to a local trusted bodywork fitter for a quote. He simply said it is too fare gone. The boot floor is crumpled there is a damage to the front behind the bumper. So my beloved car is dead :(

 

Engine is from a 2006 model and has done less than 50,000.

 

Leather interior is perfect as are doors and all the electrics are fully working. 

 

Still drives a dream,

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That is my plan.

 

Should get a few hundred for the 2006 engine. My only problem is storage and removing of parts.

I live in flats with a communal car park.

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Car is a CAT B. 

 

They offered me £1285 but I told them I want close to £200 due to the rebuilt low mileage engine and the immaculate condition of the car plus the full service history.

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This is the engineers report.

 

REPAIR SCHEDULE
New parts required:-Front Bumper Cover, Front Impact Damper, Frt Bumper Reinf, Lwr Radiator Grille, R/F Fog
Lamp, R/Fog Lamp Bracket, Rear Cover Bumper, Rear Bumper Support, Rear Impact Damper, Rr Bumper Clamp Kit,
Rear Panel, Bootlid/Tailgate, Boot/Tailgate Seal, Rear Screen Bond Kit, Rear Screen Fix Set, Upp Rear Window Mldg,
Lwr Rear Window Mldg, L/R Window Mldg, R/R Window Moulding, L/R Lamp Cpl, Inner Tailgate Trim, Car Care Kit,
Sond Dead Large, Sundries
Repaint only parts:-Rear Panel New Part Painting, Bootlid/Tailgate New Part Painting, Front Bumper Cover New Part
Paint K1r, Rear Cover Bumper New Part Paint K1r, Preparation for Pre-Painting
Specialist/Sundry charges:-4 Wheel Alignment, E.P.A. Charge, Technical Data, Anti-Corrosion
Remove and Refit parts:-Front Bumper Cover, Renew Front Bumper (Removed), Renew End Panel, Tailgate,
Renew Tailgate, Renew Rear Bumper, Car Care Kit R&R / New Parts, Check And Road Test
COST OF REPAIRS
No estimate has been obtained for repairing the vehicle but, subject to further damage found during dismantling, we
have calculated the time involved in such a repair using Audatex and we consider that a reasonable labour charge
would be £777.00. The cost of the paint and materials would be £730.64, The cost of the replacement new parts would be approximately £2,972.10, The specialist/sundry charges would be £234.00, and the VAT liability on the total would
amount to some £942.75 giving a total repair cost of £5,656.49 including VAT. There is also a recovery charge
outstanding, the amount of which is yet to be confirmed. The labour charge is based on 18.5 hours at a rate of £42.00
per hour.
PRE-INCIDENT CONDITION
The vehicle was found to be in average condition for it's age and type.
PRE-INCIDENT VALUE
According to the information available to us the vehicle was first registered in Mar 2002. The corresponding Glass's
Guide (model code: 6PN6) adjusted retail value for vehicles of this type and age in the February 2018 guide is
£1,285.00 at 117000 Miles, trade value is £410.00 and mid value is £847.50. We place the pre-accident value of this
particular vehicle at £1,285.00 bearing in mind the condition described herein. We would emphasise that this figure
is subject to consideration of the vehicle registration documents, purchase invoice and any relevant service
records confirming the recorded mileage and vehicle details as contained in this report. Our valuation is also
subject to the usual vehicle checks via H.P.I. And M.I.A.F.T.R.
SETTLEMENT
We consider that an equitable settlement would be £1,285.00 which represents the pre-accident engineer value of the
vehicle of £1,285.00.

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I personally think 1285 for a 140 is quite a good price. 

 

Although you insured it with a value of £2000 - thats not the same as an agreed value policy (usually applied to classic cars) - that usually requires a valuation to be performed or pictures etc to be sent in before they agree it on policy. 

 

You can pick up facelift 190s with similar mileage in good condition for that sort of money now.

 

facelift 140s with 100k on the clock rarely fetch over a £1000 these days

 

 

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