Celica Club UK Messages

Website Downtime Notice

Click here for more information

Welcome to Celica Club UK

Welcome to Celica Club UK, like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community, but don't worry this is a simple free process that requires minimal information. Take advantage of it immediately, Register Now or Sign In.

  • Start new topics and reply to others
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get automatic updates
  • Add events to our community calendar
  • Get your own profile and make new friends
  • Customize your experience here
  • Use the wealth of knowledge our members have to help with any questions you may have.

  • 0
99GT

Best rust treatment?

Question

Anyone have recommendations for a good brush on rust treatment? 

 

I'm just cleaning up the rear underarches and there are a few spots I'd like to treat before putting waxoyl on it. Nothing thatl need grinding, just a quick wire brush and treat.

 

I know waxoyl states it'll kill existing rust but id rather do it seperate first to be sure. 

 

Not after mega expensive marine type stuff, just readily available decent value brush on stuff

 

Cheers

Paul

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

16 answers to this question

Recommended Posts

  • 0

Deox c is supposed to be good.

 

Jenolite as well.

 

Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk

 

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0

I rather like the "Rust Converter" you can get from Toolstation, made by flag.  Big tin for a fiver.  Its almost like paint and dries to a matt black finish that seems pretty tough.  Used quite a bit on mine in fiddly places and seems to last.  The rear brake pipe loops are still matt black and non spotty after 6 months and they basically get shot blasted by crap coming off the wheels.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0

Buy a litre of phosphoric acid & water it down, that's all these branded rust converters are :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
1 hour ago, dublet said:

Hammerite's Kurust is along similar lines.

Nope

 

The toolstation stuff is like someone mixed paint with kurust.  Its literally a matt black rust converting paint all-in-one and its pretty good too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0

Thanks all. I've used Hammerite and Jenolite on small parts but wanted to try something different on the bigger sheetmetal bits. 

 

Think I'll try some Deox C, seems to have good writeups and not cheap but it'll make up loads I guess 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0

im gonna start with the rust proofing in the coming months too. thinking of just using wire brush and some zinc oxide primer then use stone chip or hammerite on rear subframe.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0

hey all i got some of this stuff on order: 0026245_hammerite-waxoyl-underbody-seal-

 

do i just slap it on to the car directly or should i use a primer first? or paint first?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0

ok so i will use rust converter, then primer epoxy mastik and then the underseal.

also do i have to use epoxy mastic? i already have a tin of zinc phosphate primer would that not work?

also is seam sealer any good?

 

also would like to provide this link here:

http://www.auson.se/sites/default/files/rusttest_noxudol_700_classic_monthly_uk.pdf

 

some people might find it interesting, its a review of different rust protection stuff.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
19 hours ago, slybunda said:

hey all i got some of this stuff on order: 0026245_hammerite-waxoyl-underbody-seal-

 

do i just slap it on to the car directly or should i use a primer first? or paint first?

 

With that stuff, prep is key

 

You need to remove all possible traces of crap, flakey stuff, rust etc.  Then treat with a rust treatment, then something like the red oxide primer, than the underseal if you really want to.  Make sure you do it on a very dry day after the car has been warm and dry for at least a couple days.  

 

I prefer not to use underseal products, I never found they work very well, and just "slapped on" can lead to nasty hidden rot that you, or the MOT man, might not see.

 

I prefer the treat, primer and paint methodology myself rather than underseal

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0

Yes i plan to use rust converter. I have aquasteel and then use the oxide primer and then use the underseal. Looks like a big job but may turn out to be easy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
On 27/05/2017 at 10:31, G.Lewarne said:

I prefer not to use underseal products, I never found they work very well, and just "slapped on" can lead to nasty hidden rot that you, or the MOT man, might not see.

 

I prefer the treat, primer and paint methodology myself rather than underseal

 

Absolutely agree; underseal is black goo, good for hiding stuff - even from yourself!

 

Need to do best job you can to get all old rust off, then use a zinc phosphate primer and then a top coat. It's also a good idea to get both primer and top coats from the same company; different makes don't always go well together.

 

I use a phosphoric acid treatment (usually Jenolite) on anything that has got more than surface rust.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • -1

some rust stabiliser then epoxy mastic,forth bridge was two year end to end,epoxy mastic loads of painters on the dole 25 years safe enough said

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • -1
6 hours ago, slybunda said:

whats epoxy mastic do? is it a primer or something more durable?

its like a tough glue/paint combo

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites