:: blade :: Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 The celica is in ribbleton in preston and the spare engine is in altrincham in manchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_jnz Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 It sounds like starter, have you managed to bump start it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: blade :: Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Nope wont bump start either. Got the plugs out to look at the piston and all is clear in the 4 cylinders so headgasket aint gone. Edited March 11, 2015 by :: blade :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Chris_ Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Have you tried turning the engine over with a socket on the crank pulley ? Could be seized engine or jammed starter casuing massive current draw when the starter is driven. OR Could be a high resistance battery or poor connection causing a big voltage drop. Check the big Earth lead from battery neg. to engine and the big lead from battery pos to starter. Check the joints are tight & clean, look for signs of overheating on the joints (melted plastic / discoloured wire or crimps). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: blade :: Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Was going to try turning the engine with a spanner then i finished work but was belting it down. Might give the at got at the weekend. Will check them earths again tomoz. Really hope its not seized tho. Cant be bothered swapping the engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul45 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 That is the sound of your starter...coulld be a starter fault but my Beams does the same thing when the batt is low (car in storage) but when i jump start it no problem...I bob over and jump start it if that fails them it's your starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizona Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 That is the sound of your starter...coulld be a starter fault but my Beams does the same thing when the batt is low (car in storage) but when i jump start it no problem...I bob over and jump start it if that fails them it's your starter this was the sound mine made, putting the booster battery pack on it still did it, putting a new battery on it fired up straight away and been fine since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zajc3w Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 If not starter motor then engine. But something is seized put it in 6th gear an push it. You should be able to turn engine over pretty easy. Looking through spark plug hole is rather pointless without endoscope, can't see cylinder wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Boy 1 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I would say it is the battery. there is enough juice in it to light the dash, but the current draw to turn it over is pretty high so that is what the clicking is. Not enough power in it to engage the solenoid on the starter. You could well have a dead cell in the battery.Especially if it has been standing for two years. If the car is on it's wheels then you could always try putting it in gear and Bump starting it. It worked with me when my battery died. It is not an ideal way of getting things going but another avenue to explore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: blade :: Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Tried bump starting and nothing tried it while towing and nothing. Had 3 batteried on it now. Tried pushing in gear but just rocks like mad. Will try just starting later with soul45 see how that goes. Got a feeling itll be engine change time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianGT Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Although mine is a different model I had something very similar. One day, out of the blue, it just wouldn't turn over and I got a click from the starter motor. As the starter motor was 40 years old I changed it for a known working one (on the bench anyway) and got the same fault. I knew the battery was good as it was fairly new so I checked the voltage to the starter through the main thick cable. I had 12 volts at the battery terminal and 1 volt at the starter! The cable had deteriorated over the years and was creating a huge resistance to flow. Changing it cured the problem. This also happens to earth cables! Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul45 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Tried bump starting and nothing tried it while towing and nothing. Had 3 batteried on it now. Tried pushing in gear but just rocks like mad. Will try just starting later with soul45 see how that goes. Got a feeling itll be engine change time Can't make it till Sunday now...but we will get to the bottom of it !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: blade :: Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Well had another set of eyes on it and swapped the starter motor for it to still do the same. Sooo the conclusion is that the engine is seized cheers soul45 for nipping round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul45 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 you are more than welcome...sorry about the result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianGT Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 If the engine was seized, when you tried to bump start it would have locked the wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: blade :: Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Wheels never locked when i bump started it the 1st time round when when it cut out again it just rolled to a stop. As i said to soul45 its really weird as there was no warning signs of anything going to happen. It was running better than ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soul45 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 we took the plugs out and the engine wiould not turn at all...should be easy to turn it with no compession...so engine problem..pity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slybunda Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Had this on an escort once the starter had seized could even crank engine by hand. Remove your starter motor and try turning the crank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Chris_ Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 You say you tried bump starting and tow starting. Did the wheels lock or clutch slip, or did the engine turn ? Is it really that difficult to put a 19mm socket on the crank pulley and try turning that you'd just condemn an engine as seized without checking ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: blade :: Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Be checking the crank today if i get chance too. Wheels never locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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