CelicaBabe Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Hopefully I will be ok then with my HIDS and I don't have headlight levelling/washers........I hope I'm OK anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briano Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 I know this might be controversial but im glad the MOT rules have changed regarding HIDS as i hate getting blinded by the things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geraintthomas Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 If you haven't got them, you don't need them. If you have got them, they must work. That's what it currently is and that's what it's regarding on that bit of paper. Like said before, the only thing that would fail HID's in an MOT is the beam pattern and colour. If putting them into reflectors (causing a blurry beam pattern) or have anything over 8000k then you'll probably fail. There's absolutely nothing wrong with putting HID's into projector headlights with a decent temperature (4300k or 5000k). They're not blinding and don't look aftermarket. If anyone has blinding HID lights they're putting them into reflectors, or have 55W 8000k's. HID's doesn't instantly mean 'blinding'. ....I love mine :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvtirob Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Dude, do you have the whole document? I would love to see the changes for commercial type vehicles too as I developed an asset maintenance system for our software and part of it includes MOT's on commercial vehicles, but I can't find the document anywhere! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booth Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Hmm now Im slightly nervous with my VSC light again. You cant remove the bulb because if the tester knows that your car should have VSC and the light doesnt come on on start up then its a fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kny Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 My HIDS 'failed' my mot. I argued the point with three staff at the garage relating to the wording of the new regulations. But what p#sses me off is the reasons for refusal : 001 Front headlamp cleaning device inoperative 002 Front headlamp levelling device inoperative The car doesnt have a cleaning device so how can it be inoperative and the levelling device that is fitted works !??? So currently have no MOT grrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryK Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Sounds like we are all going to have to find a friendly garage lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynxdoor Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 I have to ask my local mot garage about this when MOT time comes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbailey Posted April 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Contact VOSA to ask for clarification, there quite helpfull from what ive heard. Thats the thing about the whole MOT, a lot of it is left to interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Mine passed today with hids lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey_matt Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Would personally ask how they are inoperative?, what about them doesn't work? as if they are not fitted, they cannot by definition be inoperative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorjack Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Tell the garage you're going to leave it with them to fix the levellers and washers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geraintthomas Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 My HIDS 'failed' my mot. I argued the point with three staff at the garage relating to the wording of the new regulations. But what p#sses me off is the reasons for refusal : 001 Front headlamp cleaning device inoperative 002 Front headlamp levelling device inoperative The car doesnt have a cleaning device so how can it be inoperative and the levelling device that is fitted works !??? So currently have no MOT grrrr Failing a device for being inoperative when it isn't (or doesn't have to be) fitted is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kny Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Tell the garage you're going to leave it with them to fix the levellers and washers Hahaha never thought of that one! Failing a device for being inoperative when it isn't (or doesn't have to be) fitted is illegal. Really?? Never knew that. Would personally ask how they are inoperative?, what about them doesn't work? as if they are not fitted, they cannot by definition be inoperative! Yeah I think I got that point across but they were sticking to their guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamGTR Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Mine passed with 5000k HID's a few weeks ago. HID's don't mean blinding, that's down to the donkey who fits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherv Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) My HIDS 'failed' my mot. I argued the point with three staff at the garage relating to the wording of the new regulations. But what p#sses me off is the reasons for refusal : 001 Front headlamp cleaning device inoperative 002 Front headlamp levelling device inoperative The car doesnt have a cleaning device so how can it be inoperative and the levelling device that is fitted works !??? So currently have no MOT grrrr To use the official vernacular,that is utter bollocks.You cannot be failed on an item that is not fitted on the vehicle.If the car SHOULD have an item fitted and it doesn't,then the MOT tester may have a point but is being an utter prick if the above is accurate,and is also completely wrong. Find another MOT tester that isn't a c***t. Edited April 14, 2013 by thesherv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazi Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 when it comes to HID kits you can have them fitted. it will only fail if there is no pattern if the auto level doesn't work or it the factory fitted (or aftermarket) washer jets and blades don't work. if you don't have any of the headlight washers or wiper blades then all you need to have is a pattern. went to VOSA myself to find that out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamGTR Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 My HIDS 'failed' my mot. I argued the point with three staff at the garage relating to the wording of the new regulations. But what p#sses me off is the reasons for refusal : 001 Front headlamp cleaning device inoperative 002 Front headlamp levelling device inoperative The car doesnt have a cleaning device so how can it be inoperative and the levelling device that is fitted works !??? So currently have no MOT grrrr I'd report the guy, he clearly isn't capable of conducting an MOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherv Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Tell him to take a shit and fall backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kny Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Well just to let you know after a few phone calls to vosa I finally got my car passed with hids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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